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ClubFord Comunitatea posesorilor de Ford din Romania 2011-11-25T12:40:41+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/feed.php?f=149&t=51827 2011-11-25T12:40:41+02:00 2011-11-25T12:40:41+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=1003905#p1003905 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> Statistici: Scris de muzica9 — 25 Noi 2011, 12:40

]]> 2011-11-25T11:57:14+02:00 2011-11-25T11:57:14+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=1003892#p1003892 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> motivul pt care ei au awd peste tot este ca au traditie in asa ceva si e normal sa aiba continuitate si, in acelasi timp, e destul de aiurea sa ai audi a8 cu tractiune fata. chiar si audi a6.
de asemenea, la un fwd cu peste 200cp si/sau 400nm apare un torque steer profund, masina rupe si aderenta repede si el logic ca trebuiau ca la motorizarile puternice sa aiba 4wd si nu doar fwd. sunt obligati sa aiba si altceva in afara de fwd.

pt masinile sport este normal sa ai rwd pt ca fwd nu inseamna nicicum sport, iar 4wd inseamna greutate suplimentara care aduce subvirare in curbe. de regula tractiunea integrala cantareste intre 70 si 100kg.

Statistici: Scris de edit — 25 Noi 2011, 11:57

]]> 2011-11-24T13:40:58+02:00 2011-11-24T13:40:58+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=1003415#p1003415 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> Cea mai buna tactiune pentru soferi normali e FWD, cea mai buna pentru soferi care stiu a conduca e RWD, iar AWD e pentru aia care vor sa para mai smecheri decat sunt ei, e o tractiune buna doar pe zapada si noroi, Daca nu e pua pe un SUV sau ceva mare nu-i vad rostul.

Restul masinilor mici au AWD pentru ca asa cere piata, drept dovada doar masinile din grupul VW au 4WD pentru ca ei vaneaza vanzarile in primul rand, de exemplu Mercedes si BMW au pus ultimii 4WD pe "navele amiral" RWD fiind tractiunea smechera la ei. Iar altii premium nici nu au pus 4WD. Iar la masini supersport, Ferrari, Porsche, etc. Au ca varfuri de lance RWD, la ferrari toate in afara de vreo 2, si la porsche Carrera GT de exemplu de ce nu au facuto 4WD, ca nu poti spune ca nu avea tehnologia.

4WD e o ractiune buna, nimic de zis, dar inutila, are calitati dar are si defecte cat celelalte doua la un loc pe asfalt curat si chiar si ud.

Statistici: Scris de test_driver — 24 Noi 2011, 13:40

]]> 2011-11-21T22:15:29+02:00 2011-11-21T22:15:29+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=1001819#p1001819 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> + reprize, intretinere, manevrabilitate mai buna decit propulsia pe aderenta mica, mai sigura pentru majoritatea soferilor decit propulsia (accepta frina in curba pentru a reveni la traiectoria dorita. la viteze obisnuite, nu la limita)
propulsie
+ demaraj superior tractiunii, consumul cel mai mic, cea mai distractiva (si cea mai periculoasa) dpdv al condusului.
integrale
+ aderenta sporita pe teren instabil, manevrabilitate maxima, cea mai buna alegere pentru a tracta (cea mai sigura masina pentru soferii obisnuiti)

Statistici: Scris de styx1 — 21 Noi 2011, 22:15

]]> 2010-10-27T20:26:35+02:00 2010-10-27T20:26:35+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=798976#p798976 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> Legat de frinare, ABS-ul intra cind e cazul, iar distanta de frinare depinde de anvelope si pe ce suprafata frinez.
Masina o simt ca merge destul de usor, si nu am avut probleme cu ambreiajul.
Consumul este mare, dar mai mult din cauza motorului decit a transmisei.

Statistici: Scris de marius_tsr — 27 Oct 2010, 20:26

]]> 2010-10-27T14:15:56+02:00 2010-10-27T14:15:56+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=798782#p798782 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]>
FWD - aici vorbesc de un Oltcit si de un Scirocco mk1 1.6 - prima masina nu ramane inzapezita, totusi daca este o problenma prea mare, se trage frana de mana cca 2 dinti(e pe rotile fata) si diferentialul da puterea catre ambele roti, nu numai catre cea fara aderenta. Rotile inguste o ajuta sa nu subvireze prea rau. Dezavantaj - sistemul totul pe fata o facea greu de oprit in conditii de aderenta scazuta. Pe VW - roti late, greu cu iesitul din parcari, torque steer la greu, subvirari periculoase, foarte prietenoasa in linie dreapta si totusi subvirarea se putea corecta cu frana de mana (blocare roti spate), derapajul fiind usor de controlat.

RWD - Ford Sierra 2.0i/2.8i - pacatoasa, pacatoasa si cu diferential LSD si cu autoblocant aftermarket. urcare pante cu grad mare, posibila numai cu turatie mica a motorului, practic la cuplu, nu mai sus de 3500, altfel patineaza, foarte usor aluneca la vale in timp ce ai a2a cuplata sau chiar a3a. Indiferent de cauciucuri, in mers masina e usor de simtit si de controlat. Greu de oprit, uneori trebuie grija mare si cu frana de motor, rotile spate pot primi un mic blocaj-soc si incepe deraparea. Daca intrii in zapada mare - nu mai iesi. Spatele e foarte usor si in situatia asta, devine un minus.

4WD - Ford Sierra 2.9 XR4x4 si BMW E30 2.5 iX - ambele ies de oriunde, pot fi oprite sau incetinite numai in frana de motor, sunt grele, si ambreiajul e chinuit rau, consum de neam prost. Sierra subvireaza rau si urmeaza o brusca supravirare (prima oara merge drept cu rotile bracate, apoi fundul iese violent in afara virajului). BMW-ul ajutat de diff central cu alunecare limitata are comportament neutru si daca tragi de el supravirator controlabil destul de usor.

Statistici: Scris de Mircea L — 27 Oct 2010, 14:15

]]> 2010-08-13T13:27:07+02:00 2010-08-13T13:27:07+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=764830#p764830 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]>
http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/subaru/forester/

http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/toyota/rav4/

Statistici: Scris de marius_tsr — 13 Aug 2010, 13:27

]]> 2010-08-13T10:01:07+02:00 2010-08-13T10:01:07+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=764732#p764732 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> - Forester e mai bun off-road (tractiunea integrala este considerata superioara)
- Rav e mai bun on-road (confortul este considerat superior)

Statistici: Scris de zvony — 13 Aug 2010, 10:01

]]> 2010-08-13T00:00:57+02:00 2010-08-13T00:00:57+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=764590#p764590 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> , insa de Rav 4 nu prea...

Statistici: Scris de andreylungu — 13 Aug 2010, 00:00

]]> 2010-08-03T17:53:36+02:00 2010-08-03T17:53:36+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=760376#p760376 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> La toate masinile personale am pus profile care sint bune pe ploaie: Dunlop SP Sport 200, Goodyear Eagle NCT5. Si mai am si altele pe lista pe care urmeaza sa le incerc.

Statistici: Scris de marius_tsr — 03 Aug 2010, 17:53

]]> 2010-08-03T09:29:36+02:00 2010-08-03T09:29:36+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=760100#p760100 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> Statistici: Scris de toxicristi — 03 Aug 2010, 09:29

]]> 2010-07-31T14:58:05+02:00 2010-07-31T14:58:05+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=759043#p759043 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]>
In caz ca e cineva care nu stie engleza, traduc pasajul subliniat de mai jos: Lancia Delta S4 are acceleratia 0 - 100 km/h in 2.3 sec pe macadam.

Statistici: Scris de marius_tsr — 31 Iul 2010, 14:58

]]> 2010-07-31T10:18:25+02:00 2010-07-31T10:18:25+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=758953#p758953 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]>

Statistici: Scris de DanielArdelian2 — 31 Iul 2010, 10:18

]]> 2010-07-27T08:41:03+02:00 2010-07-27T08:41:03+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=756874#p756874 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> Fiindca nu-mi place design-ul la modelul actual, am intrebat la Toyota daca as putea sa fac o comanda speciala, sa-mi asambleze una din piese, din moment ce se produc piese de schimb si pentru varianta anterioara. Nu se poate, ca se asambleaza pe linie, etc... Nu inteleg ce ar fi asa de complicat sa adune piesele intr-un colt si sa o asambleze manual, ca doar nu e portavion.

Statistici: Scris de marius_tsr — 27 Iul 2010, 08:41

]]> 2010-07-26T21:58:54+02:00 2010-07-26T21:58:54+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=51827&p=756751#p756751 <![CDATA[Re: 4WD vs RWD]]> Daca as alege ceva strict pentru off-road fara limita de buget as opta pentru un G. Daca este cu limita de buget, atunci optez pentru un Vitara.
Cand am ales Focusul aveam multe variante de masini (inclusiv cabrio, SUV, berline mari sau mai stiu eu ce), insa am simtit ca asta mi se potriveste si asta este masina de care am nevoie acum. Sper ca anul sau peste doi ani sa am si un Evo, asa cum am spus, pentru recunoasteri, iar pentru competitie clar un FWD, pentru inceput. Dar deja ma gandesc mult prea departe.

Statistici: Scris de zvony — 26 Iul 2010, 21:58

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