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ClubFord Comunitatea posesorilor de Ford din Romania 2011-08-28T18:35:15+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/feed.php?f=149&t=59940 2011-08-28T18:35:15+02:00 2011-08-28T18:35:15+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=59940&p=959879#p959879 <![CDATA[Re: 2.0 PFi M5 , 145 PS sau 2.0 TDCi DPF M6, 143 PS]]>
Interesanta discutia , noi aici vorbim de puterea pus jos la roata nu ce scrie in talon inmultit cu 1.36 !
Sunt curios cati ati condus Passat ultimul model cu motor 1.6 tdi de 105 cp ...? eu da si pot spune linistit ca si un logan de 1.6 16 valve il face fara drept de apel . Asta in practica vorbind ...incat am vrut sa-i dau foc ..noroc ca este masina firmei si am avut o retinere . Passatul de care vorbiti , cel de 105 cp poate fi facut usor de un focus de 1.6 benzina daca si soferul vrea . daca nu, nu al face ! Vorbesc din practica si testat pe fostul meu Focus . Diferentele de cuplu obtinute de passat la turatii mai joase , ajutat de intercooler si turbina se duc repede atunci cand turezi un benzinar peste 3000 si terminand 6500-7000 rot/min . Passatul este o masina grea si zgomotoasa pana la tdi-ul de acum iar focusul este usoara , stabila cu o directie superba si foarte precisa . Am de servici passat 2007 2.0 tdi si 140 cp cu celebrul motor BKP si stiu ce poate un Passat . Am condus si Passatul nou cu 2.0 tdi si padele , cutie DSG si tot nu ma impresioneaza ca forta , cuplu , demaraj si confort asa cum o face un Mondeo diesel de 2.0
Pacat ca nu mai am acel focus de 1.6 benzina ca sa pot demonstra suprematia lui in fata tractorului numit Passat de 1.9 tdi . Din cifre nu se poate dar din practica ...sigur! Si Opel vectra de 1.8 benzina are 150 de cp dar numai pe hartie ..restul este comercial !

Ps. diferenta exista..... la consum ...evident .

Scuza de off topic .

Daca ar fi dupa mine as prefera oricand benzina sau benzina cu turbo , dar daca benzina nu curge la robinetul din bucatarie ,atunci sa fie tractor 2.0 tdci .

Cu respect D-lor

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2011-05-02T22:48:30+02:00 2011-05-02T22:48:30+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=59940&p=904851#p904851 <![CDATA[Re: 2.0 PFi M5 , 145 PS sau 2.0 TDCi DPF M6, 143 PS]]>
Vin cu ceva cifre dupa un drum de Romania-Germania. In pret sunt incluse si vignetele.

DE-RO
320 Euro
9.2 %
2250km
207 L

RO-DE
345 Euro
9.3% (computer bord) 9.5% (calculat)
2185km
208 L

numarul de persoane si greutatea bagajelor diferita in cele 2 cazuri.
Eu sut foarte multumist de achizitie. Net superioara anterioarei masini, Ford focus 2008 model 2007, 1.6 tot benzinar. Confort sporit, stabilitate si viteza.

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2011-04-29T21:05:28+02:00 2011-04-29T21:05:28+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=59940&p=903309#p903309 <![CDATA[Re: 2.0 PFi M5 , 145 PS sau 2.0 TDCi DPF M6, 143 PS]]> Statistici: Scris de razvanclinciu — 29 Apr 2011, 21:05


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2011-04-28T15:31:00+02:00 2011-04-28T15:31:00+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=59940&p=902513#p902513 <![CDATA[Re: 2.0 PFi M5 , 145 PS sau 2.0 TDCi DPF M6, 143 PS]]>
Evident ca nu ai aceste grafice in prospectele publice... Schimbatul la turatia de putere maxima dupa cum ai spus tu, este destul de apropiat de optim. Oricum pentru traficul obisnuit ajunge, pentru curse e alta poveste....

Cuplul este nerelevant, foarte multa lume face acesta confuzie, uitand ca acesta este la arborele cotit. Forta de tractiune de la roata depinde de cuplul motor, dar si de raportul treptei, raportul grupului final, raza rotii. Intotdeauna la diesel cutia e mai lunga decat la benzina, asa ca cuplul superior al dieselului se volatilizeaza.

Mai corect , trebuie exprimat in puteri. Conteaza puterea medie dezvolata in timpul demarajului....nimic altceva...mai trebuie tinut cont si de faptul ca forta de tractiune este limitata de aderenta... Asta e valabil fie pe carosabil ud sau motoare foarte puternice...

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2011-04-27T13:02:54+02:00 2011-04-27T13:02:54+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=59940&p=901797#p901797 <![CDATA[Re: 2.0 PFi M5 , 145 PS sau 2.0 TDCi DPF M6, 143 PS]]> Statistici: Scris de Mihootz82 — 27 Apr 2011, 13:02


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2011-04-07T22:41:42+02:00 2011-04-07T22:41:42+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=59940&p=891668#p891668 <![CDATA[Re: 2.0 PFi M5 , 145 PS sau 2.0 TDCi DPF M6, 143 PS]]> Auzi una buna de polemica:
cuplu - acceleratie, puterea - viteza :))

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2011-04-07T10:27:02+02:00 2011-04-07T10:27:02+02:00 https://forum.clubford.ro/viewtopic.php?t=59940&p=891185#p891185 <![CDATA[Re: 2.0 PFi M5 , 145 PS sau 2.0 TDCi DPF M6, 143 PS]]> Statistici: Scris de andreylungu — 07 Apr 2011, 10:27


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