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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 30 Apr 2011, 09:12

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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde Cornel001 » 30 Apr 2011, 09:14

Care 2.0 ?
Imagine

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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 01 Mai 2011, 09:06

Se pare ca incepand cu luna mai se pot pune faruri xenon si pe C-Max.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 03 Mai 2011, 15:06

Ca tot s-a vorbit de consum la motoare ecoboost. Uite un cu Ecoboost 240CP, Turnier, consum mediu 15.5l / 100km, in 29km (min 0:50). Probabil ca mai scade pana face masina 100km si ceva rodaj.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvanclinciu » 03 Mai 2011, 16:15

In cazul in care nu ai observat masina are 17 Km. Masina a fost mutata prin curtea transportatorului, dealerului, urcata - coborata de pe trailer, etc. A stat probabil la relanti destul de mult. Daca te uiti la orice masina noua pe computerul de bord, nu o sa vezi la nici una consum mediu mai mic de 20% si viteza medie mai mare de 2 Km/h. Nu poti face consumul in conditiile astea. Trebuie resertat computerul de bord si iti faci o idee de consum dupa ce faci minim 50 km.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 03 Mai 2011, 17:32

Ma astept la consum urban in jur de 15-18l. Ceea ce pentru 240cp este rezonabil.
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Mesajde razvann » 03 Mai 2011, 18:16

Ma intrebam daca ai putea sa ne arati niste date cu consumul masinilor de drive test, daca ai acces la masinile respective. Banuiesc ca sunt masini Ecoboost si/sau TDCI la drive test cu 2k-3k km si nu cred ca este o informatie confidentiala.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvanclinciu » 03 Mai 2011, 19:36

Focus 3 1.6 TI-VCT 125 CP aproximativ 1000 Km are mediu 12.4 % (am mers astazi cu el). La 1.5 EcoBoost 150 CP consumul mediu e undeva la 10%, nu mai tin minte exact. Are tot cam 1000 Km. Mai demult am avut un diesel de 1.8 TDCi 115CP, avea undeva intre 9-10%. Consumul este exclusiv urban. Nu cred ca e chiar relevant, de regula masinile fac drumuri relativ scurte, si majoritatea celor care fac test drive merg vor sa vada si demarajul si le calca.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde DanielArdelian2 » 04 Mai 2011, 19:06

Masina de drive-test de la Timisoara, Focus Ecoboost 1.6 / 150 CP (forjata ca la drive-test), avea pe bord consum mediu 8 L / 100 Km.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 04 Mai 2011, 19:41

Pe cati km era calculata media?
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde mac01 » 04 Mai 2011, 20:55

@razvann;
ti-am urmarit topicul de la inceput, si nu pot sa-ti spun decat ca ai facut o alegere fr buna. mondeo diesel cu motor de 2.0l este super.
sa o stapanesti sanatos si sa te bucuri de ea!!!!
asteptarea o sa fie fr grea.
banuiesc ca ai luat dieselul de 163cp?
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde DanielArdelian2 » 04 Mai 2011, 21:33

Nu stiu cand a fost resetat ultima data CB-ul acelei masini.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 05 Mai 2011, 14:02

@mac01, ai dreptate legat de motorizare, acum imi dau seama ca am uitat sa specific 8-}. In plus nu am gasit la nici un dealer Ecoboost pentru test drive, cu toata ca ma tenta foarte tare benzina turbo. Pana una alta m-am alimentat cu multa rabdare ca sa fie asteptarea mai usoara.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 05 Mai 2011, 14:59

Am niste intrebari legate DPF:
- Cum se comporta la Mondeo regenerarea?
- Sunt probleme?
- Sfaturi de utilizare?
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 05 Mai 2011, 19:50

LE: Am citit pe forum niste topic-uri despre DPF si regenerare... Mai ca imi vine sa merg maine la dealer sa schimb comanda pe benzina. :-S
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvanclinciu » 05 Mai 2011, 20:53

Noile filtre de particule nu se mai schimba la 120,000 Km, si nu mai necesita intretinere. E recomandat sa mergi ceva mai turat cu motorul pentru a nu avea probleme. Regenerarea si-o face in afara orasului cand mergi intins si dureaza cateva minute. Nu o sa-ti dai seama cand face acea regenerare. Insa trebuie ca motorul sa se incalzeasca si sa nu scada sub o anumita turatie (undeva la 2,000 de ture) timp de cateva minute. De regula au probleme masinile care merg exclusiv in oras. Deci nu e cazul sa-ti faci mari probleme.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 06 Mai 2011, 07:00

A ha... In momentul in care se porneste regenerarea se semnalizeaza in vreun fel? Martor bord sau altceva?

In alta ordine de idei am citit tot pe aici ca unii au avut probleme iarna, cand din cauza ghetii li s-a blocat o "jaluzea din plastic in fata radiatorului". Sa inteleg ca facelift-ul vine cu Active Grille Shutter?
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvanclinciu » 06 Mai 2011, 22:19

Nu se aprinde nici un bec pe bord. Nu ai cum sa-ti dai seama cand se face regenerarea. Pe
Mondeo nu exista grila activa in acest moment. Modelele diesel au sistem de incalzire suplimentar. Se incalzesc destul de repede.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde DanielArdelian2 » 06 Mai 2011, 22:31

Grila activa se pare ca a aparut pe Mondeo Mk4 facelift.
Chiar avem colegi de forum care au avut nevoie de o resoftare deoarece mecanismul grilei se bloca iarna si raporta defect in bord.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvanclinciu » 06 Mai 2011, 22:36

In lista de comanda nu apare, iar la curs nu ne-au spus ca ar avea. O sa-i intreb luni pe colegii de la service.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 07 Mai 2011, 07:48

In la "Tehnologii Ford ECOnetic" scrie printre altele "Inchizator activ al grilei". Colegul cu resoftarea nu are modelul econetic 1.6 tdci ci 2.0 tdci facelift.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde DanielArdelian2 » 07 Mai 2011, 08:28

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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 07 Mai 2011, 08:43

Nu toate motoarele 1.6 tdci ci doar cele in echiparea econetic. Insa se pare ca si altele au. La noul Focus din cate stiu active grille shutter au modelele cu ecoboost si cele diesel. Probabil ca si la Mondeo au aplicat aceeasi strategie.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 09 Mai 2011, 12:46

Am gasit un document Press Release despre Mondeo unde se spune ca motoarele 2.0 tdci au Delphi Injection iar cel de 2.2 are Bosch Injection. Banuiesc ca principiul de functiopnare este acelasi. Este mai bun sistemul Bosch?

Are cineva o diagrama de cuplu pentru 2.0 tdci? Nu am gasit decat pe cea de 2.2l. tdci.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde mac01 » 09 Mai 2011, 13:10

iar au echipat 2.0tdci cu porcaria de injectie de la delphi? parca renuntase ford la delphi si trecuse la siemens.
nu s-au saturat de bubele pe care le-a avut pe cap cu acest rahat de injectie si sistemul lor de programare?
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 09 Mai 2011, 13:44

Auch
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 09 Mai 2011, 14:00

LE: Sa inteleg nu e de bine ca nu am stare in perioada asta de asteptare pana vine masina si citesc tot felul de lucruri? :-"

Game actuala de motoare tdci nu e made by PSA?
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvanclinciu » 09 Mai 2011, 15:29

M-am interesat. Toate variantele au grila activa cu exceptia motorizarilor 1.6 TI-VCT si 2.2 TDCi, indiferent de nivelul de echipare.
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 09 Mai 2011, 19:49

Pentru cine este interesat de info detaliate privind noile motoare (2011) de pe Mondeo, le poate gasi .
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Re: C-Max vs Mondeo, ambele Ecoboost

Mesajde razvann » 10 Mai 2011, 07:08

Citind prin documentul de mai sus am gasit ceva interesant legat de "Smart Regenerative Charging":

"Ford ECOnetic Technologies are also applied to the new Mondeo range to enhance efficiency and economy, and include new features like Smart Regenerative Charging, the Ford Eco Mode driver information system and – a Ford first – an Active Grille Shutter system."

"Smart Regenerative Charging is standard on all versions of the new Ford Mondeo."

@razvanclinciu, ai putea, te rog, sa intrebi si eventual sa confirmi/infirmi daca tehnologia metionata exista standard pe Mondeo?
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