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Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

04 Aug 2010, 12:56

Deci avem asa:

-admisie 0,30/0,40 mm

-evacuare 0,45/0,55 mm.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

04 Aug 2010, 15:13

Buna ziua domnu' Bibanu,

Am o nedumerire la masina mea.

Cand o accelerez mai tare imi tacane avansul.E normal sa se imtample asta cand eu nu am delco?Asa ii facea lu tata la oltcit cand era benzina proasta sau cand era reglata prost.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

04 Aug 2010, 20:08

bibane, fii antenă:

zilele trecute, în Sinaia începe să mi se audă un zgomot ca de pietricică în anvelopă. la transit
zgomotul se amplifică şi se transformă într-un scîrţîit ritmat şi până la coadă mă face să deschid capota.
este de la pompa de servodirecţie.
am oprit motorul şi am tras de fulia aia şi are oarece joc axial. radial nu bate nici la mână nici în funcţionare.
nivelul uleiului în paharul de servo e normal, pe pompă nu sunt scurgeri.

m-am săturat să înjur gunoaiele fabricate de această firmă de bulangii, pe ei şi pe mamele mamelor lor.

să cadă juma de anexe la 70k nici la oltcit nu cred că s-a pomenit!

ia zi, te rog, rahatul ăla de pompă e reparabilă?
şi dacă da, cum procedez?
ăştia de pe la piese se fac că ploo şi zic că nu ştiu să existe kit de reparaţie...

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

04 Aug 2010, 20:27

Salut,
Mihaita daca nu pui si tu niste poze,suntem raciti ne uitam unul la altul,nu am idee ce pompa ai tu echipata pe motor,dar sa nu imi dai codul ca mi-l dai degeaba eu vreau sa vad pompa.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

04 Aug 2010, 21:13

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

05 Aug 2010, 08:21

Salut
Am si eu o problema care nici eu nici mecanicul meu nui dam de cap . :-t .am un ford fiesta din 90, motor de 1,1 injectie.problema este ca nu vrea sa mearga mai mult de 110. in afara imi consuma undeva la 4 4,5 maxim . in oras nu stiu undeva pe la 6 . motorul nu papa ulei . merge frumos . cand am luat masina bateau culbutori . iam dat jos rectificat , scapat de problema . neam batut capul cu bataile lor 1 saptamana pana neam dat deama de unde se aude tacanitul .
am schimbat discul de ambreiaj si placa de presiune, leam pus noi.am demaraj cu ea cand plec de pe loc , sartie rotile sub ea . deci forta are . prinde destul de ok 70 ,80 km la ora . dar problema este ca nu vrea mai mult de 110 . cand cobor o panta si ai dau si talpa atunci ajunge undeva la 120. daca mati putea ajuta sami spuneti de unde ar fi problema ar fi minunat . noi nui mai stim ce sai facem .

nu vreau sa mearga 200 dar macar un 140 sa pot intra intro depasire macar .finca la depasiri imi trebuie loc de un teren de fotbal sa pot depasi , iar de tiruri care merg cu 90 nici nu incape vorba .

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

05 Aug 2010, 18:37

Salut,

Eu tind sa cred ca totul provine de la alimentare si daca ai inlocuit filtrul de carburant trebuie vazut neaparat ce este cu injectia.
La capacitatea de 1100 cm 3 sunt sigur ca are injectie monopunct deci are un singur injector cetral.
Dai filtrul de aer jos,imi faci o poza la monopunct si dupa aceea mai discutam.
Daca porneste bine si demareaza frumos pana la o anumita viteza,nu poate fi de vine aprinderea,totul e din alimentare.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

12 Aug 2010, 22:07

uite-o Gabi, pe nenorocită!
FiÅŸiere ataÅŸate
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Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

13 Aug 2010, 19:07

Salut Mihaita,
Dupa cate pot eu sa vad pompa,se poate repara. :)

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

14 Aug 2010, 16:16

Salut, domnule bibanu` as avea o nelamurire, e posibil ca distanta dintre ax came si tachet (pastila) sa fie mai mic decat valoarea lui normala? in urma uzurii? adica sa nu creasca aceasta distanta ci sa scada... Am masurat jocul si la A-0,20(chiar 0,15) si E 0,55 la toate, acum ce sa fac sa modific pastilele si de la admisie? sa pun mai subtiri, sau sa las asa?

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

14 Aug 2010, 17:38

Salut,
E foarte normal ca toleranta intre axa si tachet sa se micsoreze deoarece prin uzura talerul supapei se uzeaza si aceasta urca,toleranta scazand.
Cele de 0,20 sunt micute,ar trebuie undeva la 0,30,deoarece la cald deja raman la mai putin de 0,15.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

14 Aug 2010, 18:03

Si acum care ar fi recomandarea? avand in vedere ca cele de la admisie s-au micsorat si de la evacuare s-au marit :|

A 30 si E 40? sau A 0,30/0,40 mm E0,45/0,55 mm cum zice cartea?

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

15 Aug 2010, 00:32

Sunt doua variante:
-se inlocuiesc pastilele de la tacheti,
-se rectifica cele existente daca exista posibilitatea.
Eu merg pe a rectificare,nu cumpar niciodata,dar cea mai a dracu e masurarea pastilelor
-lera
-caietul
-pixul
si se numeroteaza fiecare in parte.

Dimensiunea mica este pentru motor rece iar cea mare pentru motor cald,eu nu fac decat la rece,nu imi complic viata.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

15 Aug 2010, 13:49

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

15 Aug 2010, 17:45

Buna seara Domnule Bibanu'! Se poate sa ma ajutati si pe mine va rog daca aveti cu o schema de pus la punct distributia la un Fiat Palio Weekend an 1998, motor 1,6 16v 100cp cu AC? Multumesc mult mult de tot!

Sanatate!

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

24 Aug 2010, 20:23

buna seara domnul bibanu
am si eu o problema si nu i dau de cap
am un ford focus 1.6 benzina 2006 si merge sacadat ca si cum ar fi in inecat.am schimbat bujiile,o scurta perioada a incetat sa mai faca..masina mergea normal.dupa ceva timp problemele au reaparut.am fost la diagnoza nu a aparut nimic.am verificat din nou bujiile...erau afumate..le am curatat ..din nou masina merege perfect.dupa cateva zile reapar problemele.mecanicii mi au spus k ar trebui sa schimb bobina..am schimbat bobina...insa problemele nu au disparut...ce ar putea fi?multumesc

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

24 Aug 2010, 21:52

Salut,
Eu tind sa cred ca ar fi injectoarele care nu mai inchid cum trebuie.
Ai senzatia ca in momentul in care a inceput sa faca acesta problema ,a crescut si consumul de carburant?

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

25 Aug 2010, 20:53

oarecum......in cazul acesta,ce ar fi de facut?multumesc

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

26 Aug 2010, 09:31

Salut,
E doar o simpla parere,atentie nu ti-am recomandat sa cumperi injectoare.
Mergi la un atelier de profil sa le demonteze si probeze,deoarece cu aditivul care se baga in rezervor nu prea da rezultate.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

29 Aug 2010, 15:27

Salut domnu bibanu,

As vrea sa stiu ce experienta aveti cu motoarele PSA 1.6 TDCI, HDI sau cum s-or mai numi ele pe la diversi fabricanti. Daca ati vazut/auzit/desfacut sau mesterit pana acum ceva pe la vreo unul.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

29 Aug 2010, 18:13

Salut,

Avand in vedere ca domiciliez intr-un orasel destul de mic,chiar daca este municipiu :D ,nu am avut ocazia de a lucra un asemenea motor,fiind si relativ de o generarie cat de cat mai noua,deci nu cunosc daca au ceva puncte slabe sau sunt de laudat.
Vreau totusi sa mentionez ca asta nu inseamna ca nu as repara orice tip de motor,chiar avand el si 50 de pistoane,nu are importanta,nu exista mecanici de Dacie sau de Ford,exista doar mecanici si punct.
Cel care spune ca el a lucrat doar Dacie,ala nu e mecanic,nu cunoaste principiul de functionare al unui motor si e invatat doar sa mearga la magazin si sa schibe piese dar fara sa isi puna intrebarea ce rol are acea piesa in functionalitatea motorului.
Exista doar particularitati de la motor la motor,puncte slabe sau bune,in rest toate se bazeaza pe aceleasi principiu.

O seara buna va doresc.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

30 Aug 2010, 10:03

inca o intrebare....aveti idee cat ar costa aceasta demontare si probare a injectoarelor?multumesc pt sfaturi.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

30 Aug 2010, 12:57

Salut,

Regret dar nu sunt in tema si oricum nu gasesti in doua locuri acelasi pret,el variaza de la atelier la atelier.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

31 Aug 2010, 19:50

Buna seara si scuze daca va deranjez, dar vreau sa va dati si dv-stra cu parerea la problema pe care o am cu masina din semnatura (Ford Scorpio an 1995, motor 1998 cm3, 16v, dohc) si anume: am intreruperi si mers neregulat doar in pragul de 2100-2200 rotatii si nu stiu unde, si ce sa mai caut.Am schimbat bujii, fise, bobine...am verificat si furtunele de vacum, am scos mufa de la clapeta de acceleratie si de la egr (mergand si cu ele deconectate) si tot asa intrerupe.Porneste bine si merge bine atat sub 2100rot cat si peste 2200 rot.Acele intreruperi sunt si daca stau pe loc cu motorul pornit, si daca ma deplasez cu ea in orice viteza.Daca o accelerez mai brusc in vitezele 1 si 2 parca nu se mai simte asa de tare intreruperile si smuciturile dar de la a 3-a in sus in a 4-a si a 5-a nici nu pot sa merg constant cu ea la acele rotatii (2100-2200) ca parca se rupe masina asa de tare scutura si smuceste.Am si consum mare de carburant...aproape dublu fata decat ar trebui sa am (14-15 in afara fata de 8 si 20-22 in oras fata de 12-13).Probleme cu pompa de benzina nu am ca am verificat presiunea in rampa si este bine.Si ce am mai observat este faptul ca in primele minute de functionare (2-3 minute) pana se incalzeste motorul putin , nu face figuri (nu intrerupe) si merge ok, dar dupa acea incepe distractia cu intreruperile si smuciturile in mers.Orice idee este binevenita...stima si respect.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

02 Sep 2010, 13:02

Salut,
Cu mufele deconectate motorul nu poate functiona,deci sigur ai ceva probleme electrice pe ECU si din cate retin avem un coleg de forum din Bucuresti care repara asa cava,contacteaza-l.

O zi buna.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

02 Sep 2010, 16:04

O intrebare mai am....Am incercat sa vad daca merge motorul fara mufele de la injectoare si surpriza a fost ca meargea.... nu mergea bine....mergea chinuit de tot si-l tineam din acceleratie. Sa fie blocate injectoarele? practic ar fi trebuit sa se opreasca motorul daca scot mufele de la injectoare sau ma insel eu...Toata stima.

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

02 Sep 2010, 17:18

FORD FOCUS 2 motorizatie 1.4i 16V an 2005 ,INLOCUIRE KIT AMBREIAJ.

Saptamana trecuta m-a onorat cu vizita,un coleg de forum din Bucuresti care are nick Laurentiu84,el avand de inlocuit ambreiajul.
La motoarele de 1.4 se inlocuieste numai rulmentul,placa de presiune si discul fara volanta,aceasta fiind masiva nu cu masa dubla ca sa poata fi compromisa.

Pentru efectuarea acestei operatii se demonteaza urmatoarele:
-capota,
-scut protectie,
-roti fata,
-se despivoateaza si se scot planetarele,
-brat sustinere dintre cutie si caroserie,
-compresor aer conditionat,
-carcasa filtru,
-suport acumulator,
-cupla instalatie motor din tabloul de sigurante,
-calculator asistare motor(ECU),
-galerie de evacuare,
-vas lichid racire motor,
-vas lichid si pompa servodirectie,
-toate racordurile de raciare ale motorului,
-conducta alimentare cu lichid ambreiaj,
-cabluri cautatoare viteze de pe cutie,
-racorduri alimentare combustibil,
-racord vacuum sistem franare,
-tamponul frontal de la distributie,
-tamponul de sustinere de deasupra cutie de viteze,
si dupa toate aceste motorul se scoate impachetat cu cutie cu tot si se lucreaza la banc.

Procedeul meu de lucru esta ca demontez compresorul de AC,de pe motor si il suspend pe caroserie fara a pierde freonul din el,ca ulterior sa nu trebuiasca ca proprietarul masinii sa ma cheltuie degeaba inca 150/200 ron pentru a mai incarca instalatia.

Am ramas surprins placut de urmatoarele probleme:

-felul in care este cuplata toata instalatia motorului cu o mufa multicontact in tabloul de sigurante,un sistem bine gandit si efecient,
-planetarele nu mai au la capete acele oribile piulite din tabla ambutisata care creiau probleme mereu,ci au fost gaurite si filetate in centru,fixarea pe fuzeta fiind facuta cu un simplu surub de M10,
-tot aici la planetare as mai adauga ceva,in timp acest surub central care fixeaza planetare se poate demonta si prin caura ramasa de la el se poate incarca cu vaselina planetara fara a fi demontata,doar cu ajutorul unui decalimitru, ;) ,acesta practica fiind facuta prin anii 1987 la VW si Audi.


Acum trecem la partea negativa a constructorului si as incepe astfel:

-galeria de evacuare nu are imbinare cu catalizatorul,un lucru foarte ciudat,nu se pot schimba decat impreuna ca sa cheltui o gramada de bani,
-se poate intampla sa se fisureze galeria de evacuare din cauza temperaturii mari,asta insemnand sa fie schimbata cu catalizare cu tot,astfel ansablul cu totul are cam un 1 metru lungime din motor si pana la prima imbinare,
-acest fapt ma deranjat enorm la demontarea motorului deoarece neputand sa las galeria de evecuare pe motor,cum este normal sa ramana,am pierdut ore bune de demontat prin spatele motorului unde nu prea ai spatiu deloc si suruburile fiind arse si coxificate de rugina,s-au rupt necesitand diverse operatii de lacatuserie pentru a le elimina si schimba.

La demontarea ambreiajului am constatat ca se mersese ceva cu el peste limita de km admisa si din acest motiv discul de ambreiaj a ajuns la nituri si a permis acestora sa frece suprafata de contact a volantei,facand canale pe ea si invinetind-o de temperatura.

Aici iar as fi critic ca de obicei si as spune astfel:

-nu pricep de ce nu se mai face nituirea ferodourilor pe discul de ambreiaj cu nituri din cupru si se face cu din cele metalice ca sa deterioreze volanta,aceasta nefiind piesa de schimb in kit-ul de ambreiaj ca la cele cu masa dubla care se rup in timp.
-un lucru care m-a deranjat enorm a fost sistemul de montare a curelelor de la accesorii care se vor montate numai cu dispozitiv special pentru intinderea lor, fiind intinse cu acesta si renuntand la sistemul de intindere clasic si eficient.
Tare mi-as dori sa cunosc persoana respectiva care sunt sigur ca s-a umplut de bani de pe urma acestei inovatii idioate si sa il intreb de ce a desfintat sistemul de reglaj conceput de un baiat destept. :-??

Mai jos va prezint unele poze edificatoare din timpul efectuarii lucrarilor si va rog sa fiti atenti la textul care insoteste fiecare poza in parte,pentru a intelege mai bine despre ce este vorba:
FiÅŸiere ataÅŸate
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masina propriuzisa
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acumulatorul si suportul acestuia
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tamponul frontal de sustinere al motorului
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se poate observa in centru,clapeta de la acceleratie,aceea care se curata la un anumit timp
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vedere deasupra motorului
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motorul si cutia in ansamblu
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antrenorul planetarei de pe partea dreapta,cel la care se schimba rulmentul
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motorul si toata instalatia electrica care il asista si se mai poate observa si calculatorul
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ansamblul moto-cutie
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ansamblul motor-cutie

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

02 Sep 2010, 17:37

CONTINUARE FOCUS 2
FiÅŸiere ataÅŸate
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parghiile care efectueaza schimbarea vitezelor
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prinderea planetarei in fuzeta
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prinderea planetarei in fuzeta
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galeria de evacuare cu pricina
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fixarea compresorului de AC cand motorul se demonteaza de pe caroserie
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vedere de sub motor a compresorului de AC.
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carcasa pargiilor care asigura schimbarea treptelor de viteze
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mufa mama de pe tabloul de sigurante
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mufa tata de pe motor
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mufa din tablou care deconecteaza toata instalatia motorului

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

02 Sep 2010, 17:53

CONTINUARE FOCUS 2
FiÅŸiere ataÅŸate
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vedere de sub motor
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camera motorului
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camera motorului
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se observa unde sunt montate cele 3 suruburi de M6 care fixeaza suportul baterie
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ambreiajul inainte de demontare
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placa si discul cele noi
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rulmentul de presiune nou
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discul de ambreiaj vechi
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urma deteriorarii placii de presiune
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urma unde a fost frecata si incinsa volanta

Re: bibanu47: service, reparatii, reconditionari si modificari

02 Sep 2010, 18:00

referitor la sistemul de intindere al curelelor de accesorii am ramas placut surprins de cel de la Fiat Palio 1,6 16v din 1998... genial sistem si totodata foarte sigur zic eu...
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