Iesire din tara incepator

[varzeanu]

Salut, stie cineva daca un sofer incepator (adica eu:) poate iesi din tara cu masina?

Multumesc

[last.]

Din cate stiu, conducatorul auto cu vechime sub un an, nu poate conduce autovehicule in strainatate.
Bafta !

[Smiley]

in alta tara se aplica regulile tarii respective.
teoretic, din chestia asta rezulta doar ca n-ai voie sa iesi din tara la volanul masinii, nu ca nu poti conduce in alta tara. dupa ce ai trecut de vama romana, nu se mai aplica legislatia noastra si a tarii in care esti.

practic, n-am auzit pe nimeni sa fi fost verificat din punctul asta de vedere.

[varzeanu]

Ok, multzam fain de raspunsuri. Totusi este cineva care sa fi iesit din tara cat era incepator, sau care sa stie sigur ce spune legislatia?

[ivan]

Eu am iesit din tara cu 8 zile inainte sa fac 1 an de permis, iar la vama vamesul m-a avertizat ca pot fi amendat si afara pt. ca nu aveam vechimea necesara, asa ca mi-am pus prietena la volan pana am trecut granita, iar dupa aceea am facut cu schimbul(mai mult eu !).La intoarcere aveam deja 1 an de permis!

[shpampy]

$2u am iesit din tara cu 8 zile inainte sa fac 1 an de permis, iar la vama vamesul m-a avertizat ca pot fi amendat si afara pt. ca nu aveam vechimea necesara, asa ca mi-am pus prietena la volan pana am trecut granita, iar dupa aceea am facut cu schimbul(mai mult eu !).La intoarcere aveam deja 1 an de permis!

am si eu aceeasi problema. vreau sa plec in grecia (traversez decat bulgaria) prin iunie si un an fac in august. problemele sunt la vama? trebuie sa las semnele de incepator si in afara sau mai bine le dau jos ca sa nu atraga curiozitatea politistilor de acolo?

[ivan]

Semnele trebuie date neaparat jos , asta daca nu vrei sa fii amendat sau intors la granita, deci le scoti inainte sa ajungi la vama, dar dupa ce ai iesit din tara poti fi oricand oprit pt. verificare de rutina si daca observa ca nu ai 1 an cred ca e nasol!

[Officer]

In majoritatea tarilor e aceeasi prevedere: sub un an de permis nu ai voie afara.

[octa]

avand in vedera ca esti incepator, cu inavatatura proaspata(!), e curios sa intrebi asa ceva. legea e lege: inainte de a implini un an de experienta, un conducator de autoturisme nu poate 'profesa' la volan in alta tara decat cea in care a obtinut permisul de conducere...

bafta! si la mai mare!

[nc_cezar]

cica nu. dar cum se mai spunea si sus. verifica????

[b3nd3r]

eu cand aveam cam vreo jumate de an de permis...sau 7 luni numai styu sigur am facut un drum rom-italia...apropoape singur(asta pe vremea cand era control la austrieci cu unguri) nu mi-a cerut nimeni nimik sau ce...sa va spun??...,nu mi sa intamplat ceva notabil in legatura cu problema asta care sa mi ramna in memorie
Ps nu aveam semne de incepator atasate.

[leut27]

problea nu se pune numai la vama
sa zicem mersi ca vamesii nostri ne si avertizeaza
atentie ca in bg soferii sunt trasi pe dreapta
sa nu aveti surprize neplacut

bafta

[Razvychi]

eu stiu ca nu is probleme.si eu am iesit dupa jumate d an din tara si nu ma intrebat nimeni nimic.
asa ca nu vad care ar fi problemele conduci cu grija si iti vezi d treaba ta.
Bafta daca pleci din tara!!!

[COSMIN_UFL_CODRESCU]

salut,

vreau si eu sa ies din tara cu masina su sunt incepator si vad tot felu de raspunsuri ca nu ai voie sa iesi
dar vreau sa vad unde gasesc in legislatia nou din 2010 unde interzice acest lucru unde precizeaza ca conducatori cu o vechime mai mica de un an nu au voie?

[toxicristi]

Ce zici tu nu tine de codul rutier romanesc, cu atat mai putin de o actualizare recenta. Trecerea frontierelor se face conform reglemetarilor conventiei rutiere de la Viena - 8.11.68 care la Cap IV, DRIVERS OF MOTOR VEHICLES, art 41 : Driving permits zice asa ( http://www.unece.org/trans/conventn/crt1968e.pdf" target="_blank ):

$2. (a) Every driver of a motor vehicle must hold a driving permit;
(b) Contracting Parties undertake to ensure that driving permits are
issued only after verification by the competent authorities that the driver
possesses the required knowledge and skill;
(c) Domestic legislation must lay down requirements for obtaining a
driving permit;
(d) Nothing in this Convention shall be construed as preventing
Contracting Parties or subdivisions thereof from requiring driving permits for
other power-driven vehicles and mopeds.

2. Contracting Parties shall recognize:
(a) Any domestic permit drawn up in their national language or in one of
their national languages, or, if not drawn up in such a language, accompanied by a
certified translation;
(b) Any domestic permit conforming to the provisions of Annex 6 to this
Convention; and
(c) Any international permit conforming to the provisions of Annex 7 to
this Convention;
as valid for driving in their territories a vehicle coming within the categories
covered by the permit, provided that the permit is still valid and that it was
issued by another Contracting Party or subdivision thereof or by an association
duly empowered thereto by such other Contracting Party. The provisions of this
paragraph shall not apply to learner-driver permits.

3. Notwithstanding the provisions of the preceding paragraph:
(a) Where the validity of the driving permit is made subject by special
endorsement to the condition that the holder shall wear certain devices or that
the vehicle shall be equipped in a certain way to take account of the driver's
disability, the permit shall not be recognized as valid unless those conditions
are observed;
(b) Contracting Parties may refuse to recognize the validity in their
territories of driving permits held by persons under eighteen years of age;
(c) Contracting Parties may refuse to recognize the validity in their
territories, for the driving of motor vehicles or combinations of vehicles in
categories C, D and E referred to in Annexes 6 and 7 to this Convention, of
driving permits held by persons under twenty-one years of age.

4. Contracting Parties may introduce in their domestic legislation a
subdivision of the categories of vehicles referred to in Annexes 6 and 7 of this
Convention. If the driving permit is restricted to certain vehicles within a
category, a numeral shall be added to the letter of the category and the nature of
the restriction shall be indicated in the driving permit.

5. For the purpose of the application of paragraph 2 and subparagraph 3 (c) of
this Article:
(a) A motor vehicle of the category B referred to in Annexes 6 and 7 to
this Convention may be coupled to a light trailer; it may also be coupled to a
trailer whose permissible maximum mass exceeds 750 kg but does not exceed the
unladen mass of the motor vehicle if the combined permissible maximum mass of the
vehicles so coupled does not exceed 3,500 kg;
(b) A motor vehicle of the category C, or of the category D referred to in
Annexes 6 and 7 to this Convention may be coupled to a light trailer without the
resultant combination ceasing to belong to category C or category D.

6. An international permit shall be issued only to the holder of a domestic
permit for the issue of which the minimum conditions laid down in this Convention
have been fulfilled. It shall not be valid after the expiry of the corresponding
domestic permit, the number of which shall be entered in the international permit.

7. The provisions of this Article shall not require Contracting Parties:
(a) To recognize the validity of domestic or international permits issued
in the territory of another Contracting Party to persons who had their normal
residence in their territories at the time of such issue or whose normal residence
has been transferred to their territories since such issue; or
(b) To recognize the validity of permits as aforesaid issued to drivers
whose normal residence at the time of such issue was not in the territory in which
the permit was issued or who since such issue have transferred their residence to
another territory.

La noi nu exista permis de "learner-driver", e posibil ca acolo sa se fi facut o neintelegere. Permisele noastre corespund anexei 6.

tags : incepator, viena, international, permis

[bobutza]

si eu la fel dupa 6-7 luni am mers in austria si nu mi sa spus nimic la vama,doar ca mia expirat verificarea austriaca(la un ford sierra) au vrut sami duca masina pe slep in austria si na au fost ceva probleme(era mama cu tata in fata cu alta masina) dar sa rezolvat in still romanesc ,si unguri sunt ca romanii la vama

[Sexyrat]

Eu am iesit din tara in ziua in care mi-am luat permisul si m-a oprit un politist maghiar care nu mi-a zis nimic legat de acest lucru.

[Clash]

In Germania sigur ai voie (nici nu au semn de incepator pe masini). La noi era ceva ca sub 1 an nu ai voie pe autostrada.

[KomandantuR]

Gresit. Sub 1 an ai voie pe autostrada, dar ai limita de viteza mai mica cu 20 km/h, respectiv 110.

[bobutza]

de parca ungurii daca te opresc ii intereseaza de asta...habar nau...ca u nu ai voie 130 ,daca depasesti 130 sau 140 atunci e problema

[KomandantuR]

$2.. La noi era ceva ca sub 1 an nu ai voie pe autostrada.

Raspunsul meu se referea la ce am ingrosat. Afara nu stiu.

[bobutza]

da e clar ca la noi pe autostrada....este aia...de unde ca nici nu stiu ungurii sa se uite pe ce data ai luat permisul...nu cred io ca stiu romana sau engleza...
io anu asta mi-am luat o masina si am inmatriculato,pana anu asta am circulat tot cu numere de austri de cand am permisu de 2,apeoape 3 ani si o data ma oprit un gabor si na durat 10 secunde si mia dat actele inapoi,cred ca habar navea cu ce se manca...poate a vazut doar marca masinii si atat

[Mihai L]

Pai la o prima vedere nici tu nu stii romana, asa ca ce pretentie sa avem de la unguri???

La o privire mai atenta, deja esti foarte aproape de avertismente, asa ca ai grija.

[bobutza]

cine eu?

[Mihai L]

Ooops?
Se pare ca si de intelegere, nu numai de scriere?

[cyprydeea]

Salut.
Eu am iesit din tara (austria) dupa 30 de zile de la primirea permisului si fara probleme pe tot traseul.
Daca conduci regulamentar esti ok daca nu ..................