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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Cornel001 » 08 Feb 2009, 03:31

stai sa vezi ce-l lauda astia de la whatcar sau autoexpress, unele din fiefurile focus, pe care l-au retrogradat intre timp undeva pe poztia a patra la "new cars".
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Moartea » 08 Feb 2009, 09:49

decât Fiat, mai bine Logan... sau, hai, Ford...

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Re: Focus vs Golf

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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde edit » 08 Feb 2009, 12:19

stiam de corolla ca este o masina f vanduta insa nu stiam exact locul pe care il ocupa in clasament. credeam ca este locul 3.
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde mondeo.ro » 08 Feb 2009, 14:57

Da,interiorul este frumos la noul Golf,dar asta este singurul argument pro-golf din partea mea.
In Timisoara am vazut cateva dar sincer spus noul Golf arata banal si plictisitor.5-ul este mai frumos.Singurul motiv ptr. care as cumpara eu un Golf ar fi interiorul ceva mai frumos decat la Focus sau poate nu neaparat mai frumos,dar materialele sunt putin mai bune.
Totusi preturile Golf-ului sunt prea mari.La ~20.000e,cat costa un Golf bine echipat,poti gasii lejer un Mondeo 4 diesel,care are acum o promotie:Mondeo Trend+optionale,1.8 TDCI,20.300e TVA inclus...sau cumperi un Renault Laguna 2.0 16v 140cp 6+1,care il gasesti si sub 20.000e.
Eu consider ca 20.000 pe o compacta e extrem de mult,fie ea si Golf 6 si numai un nebun ar da atata pe o strutocamila din aia.
Prefer sa am un interior mai 'inferior' cum e cel de pe Focus 2 dar sa am o masina completa,decat sa cumpar un interior frumos,dar o caroserie care duce lipsa de optionale si e lipsita complet de personalitate.
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16.10.2016 = 366.780km! Turbo original, pompa inalta original. Injectia schimbata la 305.000km(!) si revopsita partial in 2014. In medie 500e/an filtre, ulei,piese si manopera(3 revizii/an). Arata si merge aproape ca in 2008 cand am luat-o.
Consum minim, calculat la pompa=5.8l/100km(urban, extraurban, autostrada) Viteza 80-140km/h pe nationale si 140-210km/h pe autostrada.
Consum mixt in prezent=6.9-7.3l/100km
Consum record:202km cu 8l =>4l/100km!!
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Maxy » 08 Feb 2009, 17:46

Ca sa nu mai adaugam ca la g6 noul 2.0 tdi cr desi are 3 cp in plus este chiar mai lent decat cel vechi. A facut autobild un test si sub 9.8 pana la suta nu a reusit sa scada.
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde KomandantuR » 11 Feb 2009, 11:04

Am dat o "raita" pe forumul VAG. Noi pacilea suntem muuuult mai obiectivi, + ca il avem pe edit, ceea ce ei n-au (sic!) :D . Unul pe acolo s-a tinut de prostii, si dupa o gramada de sfaturi si pareri (chiar daca erau unanime), si-a luat....Focus. Ce nashpa masini ne-am ales oameni buni, zau asa !!! :D

PS. mondeo.ro, tu esti ala pe acolo, cel care le strica ploile? :))
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Cornel001 » 11 Feb 2009, 11:17

baga si tu link te rog :)
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde KomandantuR » 11 Feb 2009, 11:33

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Re: Focus vs Golf

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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Cornel001 » 11 Feb 2009, 11:40

Aky_1211 este chiar Alex_1211 de la noi de pe forum.... si are , evident, un sport tdci 1.6 90.
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Maxy » 11 Feb 2009, 11:47

Pe forumul ala sunt multi talibani, e tare amuzant insa de citit.
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde sppawn2004 » 11 Feb 2009, 11:56

ehh,...fiecare cioara cu puii ei...toata lumea zice de plasticele de la ford...ca sunt ieftine, ca nu mai stiu ce...asa si ce? pai eu cumpar masina ptr plastice?? bine frate cumpara tu golf cu plastice mai bune si cu turbina picata la 150 k si lasa sa iau eu ford cu plastice ieftine si cu motor mai durabil..!!..." si ce daca a picat turbina...nu conteaza...e masina buna....:))" un citat din spusele unui coleg..!!
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Cornel001 » 11 Feb 2009, 12:16

dar cine le strica ploile ? unde ?

edit: gata, am vazut si eu acum.
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde edit » 11 Feb 2009, 12:17

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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde DanielArdelian2 » 11 Feb 2009, 12:25

Puteti cauta pe forum direct de pe Google. Exemplu: [ revizie ford fiesta site:clubford.ro ]
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde mondeo.ro » 11 Feb 2009, 12:53

Mondeo MK3 2.0TDCI 116cp HB
16.10.2016 = 366.780km! Turbo original, pompa inalta original. Injectia schimbata la 305.000km(!) si revopsita partial in 2014. In medie 500e/an filtre, ulei,piese si manopera(3 revizii/an). Arata si merge aproape ca in 2008 cand am luat-o.
Consum minim, calculat la pompa=5.8l/100km(urban, extraurban, autostrada) Viteza 80-140km/h pe nationale si 140-210km/h pe autostrada.
Consum mixt in prezent=6.9-7.3l/100km
Consum record:202km cu 8l =>4l/100km!!
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde mondeo.ro » 11 Feb 2009, 12:56

Mondeo MK3 2.0TDCI 116cp HB
16.10.2016 = 366.780km! Turbo original, pompa inalta original. Injectia schimbata la 305.000km(!) si revopsita partial in 2014. In medie 500e/an filtre, ulei,piese si manopera(3 revizii/an). Arata si merge aproape ca in 2008 cand am luat-o.
Consum minim, calculat la pompa=5.8l/100km(urban, extraurban, autostrada) Viteza 80-140km/h pe nationale si 140-210km/h pe autostrada.
Consum mixt in prezent=6.9-7.3l/100km
Consum record:202km cu 8l =>4l/100km!!
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde leut27 » 11 Feb 2009, 13:28

bun , trebuie sa imi fac cont pe vw forum
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde DanielArdelian2 » 11 Feb 2009, 13:59

Mai oameni buni,

Pana acum ati demonstrat ca sunteti peste nivelul lor, forumul Ford imi pare a fi mai obiectiv decat alte forumuri mono-marca. Eu v-as recomanda sa va pastrati calmul, nu va puneti mintea cu ei, ca nu merita.

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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Maxy » 12 Feb 2009, 05:40

Am luat un pic la purecat vwforum... bai nene pai Fordul e Rolce Royce la fiabilitate pe langa Vag, la GOLF 4 si 5 ploua cu topice mi-a picat turbina, motorul s-a turat si dupa aia s-a blocat. Am observat si cateva GTI-uri cu motoarele picate la 60.000 km. Eu personal am doi prieteni unul cu un passat 2.0 TDI(a schimbat motorul, caz prezentat si pe vwforum) si celalt cu octavia tot cu 2.0 TDI turbina picata la 44.000 de km.
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde DanielArdelian2 » 12 Feb 2009, 09:20

Ia uita-te si la consumuri, mai ales urbane (de Bucuresti daca se poate), ca lumea pe aici sustine sus si tare ca Fordurile consuma mult.
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Cornel001 » 12 Feb 2009, 09:50

eu m-am uitat mai demult pe alte forumuri monomarca cand ma plangeam de consum la a mea, si am vazut ca la si celalalte marci modelele echivalente (generatie, clasa, motor) consuma tot cam la fel (desigur asta nu e o scuza pt minciunile din brosura/manual). Dar daca unii din noi sustin ca stiu ei cum sta treaba , ce sa-i mai contrazici.
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Maxy » 12 Feb 2009, 15:25

Hahaha si cum vorbeam de fiabilitatea vag si prieteni in postul de mai sus... eram eu azi prin oras cu cealalta masina mergeam linstit cand din senin primesc un telefon de la un tovaras proaspat posesor mandru de A6 2.7 TDI.

Ce faci nene?
R: Prin oras cu niste treaba, tu?
Uite bine, ia zii ai treaba multa, poti ajunge pana la Romana?
R: De ce?
Pai stau pe dreapta cu avariile si nu mai pot sa ma misc de pe loc, o pun in D in R nu se intampla nimic, se tureaza in gol.
R: Aaa pai cred ca ti-a picat cutia
Da asa se pare
R: Bine stai sa iau Clio si te tractez(thumbs up) :-c

Vag built... what a great vehicle :D/
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Mesajde edit » 12 Feb 2009, 17:03

stimabile, ia-o usurel ca incepi sa sari calul.
la cat esti de disperat sa ponegresti anumite marci , ce pretentii sa am.
pai tu crezi ca daca masina se numeste audi, mercedes, bmw sau lexus nu sunt probleme?
intra pe forumurile dedicate marcilor respective si ai sa vezi ca fiecare brand are bubele ei si nu sunt doar de un anumit tip, ci de toate cacaturile.

toate se opresc in mijlocul drumului .

si vad ca ai scotocit vw forum sa te uiti dupa problemele golfului insa te-ai uitat si la noi pe forum sa vezi ce dezastru este? iti dau un link si ai sa vezi ca 75% din topicuri sunt despre probleme. rasfoieste primele 10 pagini si citeste titlurile:
http://forum.clubford.ro/viewforum.php?f=54

vedem numai ce vrem sa vedem
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde Maxy » 12 Feb 2009, 19:31

Aaa, asa e eu sunt ala pornit sa ponogrezc anumite marci iar tu erai ala obiectiv care stie sa aprecieze o marca, mda.
Daca tie ti se pare normal o astfel de masina sa te lase in drum ca ultima dacie, daca tie ti se pare normal sa schimbi motoare ca si cum ar fi o chestie normale atunci imi pare rau dragul meu domn dar chiar ai trecut de stadiul de fanatism. Probleme exista si la Mercedes desigur, dar sa te lase in drum nu am auzit pe niciun forum monomarca decat la VAG+ ca eu vorbesc din cazuri clare nu cazuri povestite de gigei ai altor gigei care l-a cunoscut pe un gigel.
Da asa e, extraordinar de multe probleme la Focus, upgrade becuri, ce facem cu greierasi, mufa conectare IPOD, ba chiar am inteles ca e o problema incredibil de mare, unii raman fara antele radio, shit asteptam un recall. :))
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Mesajde BogdanFSB » 12 Feb 2009, 19:41

chiar daca nu consider ca ford e cine-stie-ce marca de masina, aici ii dau dreptate lui maxy...sincer nu prea am vazut pe forumul nostru probleme foarte grave...Doamne ajuta nici sa nu vedem...:D
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Re: Focus vs Golf

Mesajde adyamg » 12 Feb 2009, 21:06

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Mesajde edit » 12 Feb 2009, 21:34

maxy iti arat un link cu un S65 AMG de 600 cp si 200.000 euro care a ramas in drum la un motor cu mai putin de 10.000km.
orice masina te lasa in drum indiferent ca pretul este 50k, 100k, 200k sau 500k euro. si nu este vorba doar de audi.

spuneai ca nu sunt probleme la focus.

selectie de topicuri din aria focus 2 de pe primele 3 pagini:

pagina 1:

Defectiune inchidere centralizata
Consum enorm!!!!!
Stergatoare parbriz
Roti spate intepenite
EXFOLIERE PRAGURI FORD FOCUS II ?!
ulei in zona injectoarelor
probleme frana
Problema Focus 2
sonda lambda
moare la relantii...problema senzor ax came?
Lampa Avertizare Motor Focus 2
Se desprinde partea din plastic a bordului
pistoni portbagaj hatchback

pagina 2:
problema - scadere intensitate faruri la viraj ST/DR
Mi se reseteaza ceasul!
Focus 2.0 /2005 /TDCI ezitare la accelerare
Zgomot si tremurat motor
trepidatie volan de la 110KM/h -ff2 1.6 tdci 90CP 29000 KM
probleme cu cd-playerul
Ce inseamana eroarea P 0698 LA 16 tdci??
Becuri , becuri , becuri ...
Consum ulei FF TDCI 1,6
Problema cu luminile din bord
Probleme turbina dupa doar 4500 km?
NU MAI FUNCTIONEAZA VOICE CONTROL
probleme ff2 1,6/tdci 109cp
Greierasi (Focus 2)
calculatorul defect si aprindere BENZINA 1.6
probleme focus nou
Servodirectia nu mai funtioneaza. Focus Facelift 1.6i
problema lumini
o mica problema
Probleme cu alternatorul

pagina 3:
FLUiERA TARE TURBINA
nu se incalzeste motorul(apa)
oprire in mers
Probleme spalator parbriz...si Romcar
mi s-a oprit motorul la relanti...
face figuri la pornire focus 2 ..sometimes :)
Ajutor
Problema computer bord
Vibratii ciudate masina/volan
Engine Systems Fault
frana mana epb in avarie!ce e de facut???
verificare AC??
Inlocuire turbina
Disc de ambreiaj FF nou 30.000 km
\Zgomot la acceleratie in treapta a patra
consum ulei la un ff2 1.8 tdci nou
Problema cu airbagurile.
New FF2 - mort !!!
Zgomot 1.8 Tdci 2006 la rece
nu mai porneste

MAI VREI???

eu nu ridic in slavi VAG-ul ci doar incerc ca mai temeperez din entuziasmul baietilor cu sangele infierbantat ca al tau
habar nu ai pe ce lume traiesti.
sincer, ti-o spun si cu mahnire.
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