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Re: Simte cineva criza?

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Mesajde zaboss » 06 Mar 2009, 22:40

În lumina cifrelor de la statistică şi a datelor preliminare pentru primele 2 luni eu întrevăd ca scenariu optimist pentru 2009 o scădere a PIB de doar 10% şi un curs mediu anual de 4,7 lei/euro, iar pentru 2010 o scădere de 7% şi un curs de 5,2/euro (pornind de la premisa că vârful va fi T3 2009). La scenariul pesimist nici nu vreau să mă gândesc. Tâmpitul de Băsescu vrea să renunţe la banii de la FMI şi să traversăm criza "prin noi înşine". Vă daţi seama ce impact va avea oficializarea eşecului în relaţia cu FMI?
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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde isotech_ro » 06 Mar 2009, 22:51

ca sa fim totusi corecti :
- se vorbeste, in mediile politice - economice, despre bani de la UE, sub monitorizaree FMI. mai zilele tracute PSD s-a opus vehement unui acord doar cu FMI, care oricum v-a intra si sub aprobarea comisiei europene
- despre cursurile de schmb, tare imi este teama si de mai rau in conditiile carerii dramatice a exportului sa nu avem si cursuri mai mari.
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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde alexandrusavu » 06 Mar 2009, 23:49

Mai nou firmele de leasing trimit facturile prin curierat și trebuie să semnezi de primire.
Cică mulți nu plătesc factura cu scuza că "domne n'a venit factura deci n-am ce să plătesc " :)
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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde muzica9 » 06 Mar 2009, 23:53

mai sa fie. la mine nu ajunge mai deloc nici cu posta nici prin curier. asa baiat bun sunt, ca scot o copie dupa net si merg sa o platesc.




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Mesajde alexandrusavu » 07 Mar 2009, 00:19

La Impuls leasing îmi trimit tot timpul pe mail factura în ziua emiterii.
La casco îmi trimit pe mail factura când își aduc aminte sau când îi sun eu!

Prin poștă primeam din an în paști.

Mai nou ambele facturi vin în același plic. Economie :))
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Mesajde Nic_Bv » 09 Mar 2009, 10:32


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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde leut27 » 09 Mar 2009, 11:38

Referitor la facturile de leasing

pe mine ma anunta prin sms si vin cu posta mai nou
Imi veneau prin curier si a trebuit sa platesc curierul pe tot anul acum cateva luni,i-am sunat si le-am zis sa trimita prin posta ca nu le mai platesc curierul pe viitor
Trimiteau si prin cargus, de altfel curier bun dar cu tarife mai mari .
Lucrurile stau naspa , eu unul ma uit destul de mult stanga dreapta si acolo unde inainte vedeam magazine acum numai vad nimic semn ca multe mici afaceri s-au inchis.
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Persoana care mi-a trimis banii a platit numai 4 euro , mi se pare absurd, am mai sunat si la alte bancii si mi-am dat seama ca 40 a fost o suma buna
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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde Alma » 09 Mar 2009, 11:40

Prin Western Union nu ieseai mai ieftin? :-??
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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde leut27 » 09 Mar 2009, 12:02

NU cred:)
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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde zaboss » 09 Mar 2009, 13:31

Romania's Dacia Logan becomes cult car for crisis-hit Germany
Graham Stack in Berlin
March 9, 2009


German Chancellor Angela Merkel might have recently blown off emerging Europe's bid for EU direct financial support, but one of the region's countries has benefited from her anti-crisis measures, albeit unintentionally. Romania's carmaker Dacia is seeing exports of its budget model Logan to Germany soar.

To support plummeting domestic car sales - and of course help the environment - Merkel's government introduced an "environmental bonus," paying owners of cars over nine years old €2,500 to junk their smelly old bangers and buy new environmentally- friendlier wheels.

As a direct, but unintended, result, Dacia Logan sales surged six-fold in February. The Logan now enjoys cult status in Germany as an ironic symbol of the crisis.

The reason: German policymakers forgot that owners of nine-year-old cars in crisis conditions aren't likely to fork out for a brand-new Merc, BMW or Audi, even for a €2,500 euro bonus. Rather they gun for the €7,500 Logan. The €2500 euro bonus constitutes a 33% reduction - which car dealers are now writing directly onto price labels.

So Dacia is the cheeky winner of Germany's stimulus plan, proving how difficult such things are in a globalised world.

And the sudden surge in demand from Germany couldn't come at a better time for Dacia. In the last quarter of 2008, Romanian demand for cars collapsed, leading to a production stop at the plant that employs 14,000.

Now the plant will restart production for a month to assemble 30,000 models for export to Germany.



Ar fi o chestie mişto ca Logan să se transforme într-o "broscuţă".
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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde Alma » 09 Mar 2009, 13:41

Aia cu globalizarea nu prea a nimerit-o caci scopul principal la astfel de masuri este innoirea parcului auto pentru reducerea poluarii si nu stimularea productiei autohtone. In astfel de masuri nu se impun conditii restrictive in ceea ce priveste provenienta autovehiculului.
Pot daca vor sa-si cumpere si noua Tata Nano ca nu-i impiedica nimic ;)
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Mesajde zaboss » 09 Mar 2009, 13:59

Ceea ce m-a atras este ideea că Dacia poate deveni maşină cult (din seria VW Beetle, Trabant, Mustang, Fiat 500, Mini...). Marketingul Dacia ar putea prelua ideea.
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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde isotech_ro » 09 Mar 2009, 14:21

parerea mea, ca dacia sa devina o "maşină cult", mai ales in germania, este ca cei de la dacia pitesti sa uite a mai face masini nefiabile ... daca loturile care vor fi exportate - cumparate, mai ales acum, se vor dovedii niste "junk" pentru germani, atunci dacia poate sa-si spuna adio de la acesta piata
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Mesajde zaboss » 09 Mar 2009, 14:53

Nu fiabilitatea sau calitatea a fost problema Logan-ului.
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Mesajde edit » 09 Mar 2009, 22:50

acum aprox 15 ani auzisem ca bancile elvetiene sunt cele mai sigure din lume.

ei, ce credeti ca ansemna pt mine asta?! insemna ca daca "x" persoana se duce la o banca elvetiana sa-si depuna niste bani acolo, banii sunt atat de bine ferecati in seifurile lor gigantice incat nici un spargator de banci indiferent cat de bine pregatit era si ce ustensile avea, nu putea sa sparga seiful respectiv. plus ca credeam ca numarul gardienilor bine inarmati este mare.
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Mesajde Nenea Fordescu » 09 Mar 2009, 23:47

Oricum, cel mai tare ramane Tariceanu care, dupa ce a anuntat ca Romania nu va fi afectata de criza, s-a dus la "piata" si a cumparat asa, ca dintr-o intamplare, titluri de stat garantate integral :)
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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde isotech_ro » 09 Mar 2009, 23:51

in mod clar, nici Tariceanu, ca nici Antonescu (un banal "profesoras" razghiat), nu reprezinta solutia pentru ce va urma ... drumul care-l urmeaza ii conduce spre 1%
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Mesajde isotech_ro » 10 Mar 2009, 09:36

daca tot o dam in statistici iata cam ce gandeste Deutsche Bank despre evolutia Romaniei in acest an
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Mesajde zaboss » 10 Mar 2009, 10:39

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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde isotech_ro » 10 Mar 2009, 10:41

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Re: Simte cineva criza?

Mesajde Chipu » 10 Mar 2009, 10:53

cred ca nu s-au documentat prea munt,
mai ales in ceea ce priveste "Unemployment rate" sunt cu siguranta intr-o mare eroare.
E imosibil sa nu creasca, deja e mult mai sus decat in ultimii cel putin 2 ani...
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Mesajde Nic_Bv » 10 Mar 2009, 10:54

Parerea mea este ca studiul facut de Deutsche Bank e superficial. Somajul stagneaza la 4% ? Ce bine ar fi...
Exporturile scad cu numai 5%? Poate alea extracomunitare, ca exportul catre UE e dezastru... cu o singura exceptie, Dacia Logan. :))
Aceasta exceptie este o dovada clara a faptului ca nici macar germanii nu mai sunt in stare sa riposteze corect la criza. Au dat prime de casare de 2.500 EUR cu care au lovit de doua ori in producatorii lor de masini: in primul rand, majoritatea celor ce caseaza se orienteaza spre Dacia, si in al doilea rand pentru ca rabla care pana ieri o aveau in curte nu va mai cere piese de schimb si consumabile din industria germana.

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Mesajde isotech_ro » 10 Mar 2009, 14:20

@MirceaMM : eu nu-mi aduc aminte sa fi sugerat vreo solutie politica, la actuala criza din Romania ... daca tie ti se pare corecta abordarea politico-economica practicata de PNL, cu sprijin parlamentar PSD, cel putin din ultimile 6 luni de guvernare, cind se stia, in mediile informate, despre ce va urma, ok, este optiunea ta ... eu unul m-am saturat de justificari gen ... "este comunist" ... "este betiv" ect. ect. ... daca cautam bine la toate partidele din Romania o sa-i gasim uniform distribuiti ... si betivii, si comunistii ... daca tie ti se pare corecta abordarea politico -economica, pentru actuala criza, a unui absolvent al Facultatii de Istorie-Filozofie (1985) ... OK este dreptul tau de opinie ... mie personal nu-mi face impresia ca va rezolva vreuna dintre problemele ardente ale societatii romanesti

PS dpdv economic ultimele 6 luni ale guvernarii PNL au insemnat un deficit al bugetului de stat de 5,3%, adica cca 7 miliarde de euro, o prabusire a cresterii economice de la 8%, in trimestrul III - 2008, la 2,8% in trimestrul IV ect. ect. ect. fara ca societatea romanesca sa se curete de comunisti si de betivi ....
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