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Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

15 Oct 2011, 13:53

Topicul suna simplu: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?
Eu am raspuns la:"Stiti ce nu inteleg io? De ce se retine certificatul de inmatriculare? "

Reformulez raspunsul: se ia talonul ca metoda de constrangere a bizonului de la volan, sa-l faca sa inteleaga ca anvelopele de iarna sunt o necesitate, nu un moft. Sa priceapa ca masina lui cu gume de vara reprezinta un pericol in conditii de polei pentru ceilalti participanti la trafic.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

15 Oct 2011, 14:11

Sa dea cu fulgi!!!
Ieri am fost in Bulgaria, Dobrich, cu ceva treaba si am tras un ochi si la parcurile auto unde am ramas cam traznit.Preturile la anumite masini au ajuns la jumate.Exemplu: Opel Astra/VW Golf classic 1.4 Ac, geamuri el, etc an fab 2000 costa 2500 euro.Dar adevarata bucurie a fost cand am vazut niste seturi de gume, puse la vanzare, si am aflat si pretul : 40 euro setul de 4 anvelope de iarna , profil 5-6 mm, diferite marci, la dot nu ma pricep dar erau destul de moi.Asa ca am achizitionat si eu un set de Semperit 195/65/15 cu profil excelent contra sumei de 80 leva/mai putin de 40 eur.Relatez asta deoarece am urmarit "japca" ce se desfasoara acum in Romania, unde se vand seturi uzate , cu profil 4-5 mm, cu 500 lei{ la dimensiune specificata mai sus}.
Referitor la diferenta anvelopelor iarna/vara afirm din propria experienta ca diferenta este colosala si inseamna mult pentru siguranta fiecarui om implicat in trafic.Pe Ford-ul meu aveam Toyo Proxes de vara si jenti de tabla cu Vredestein Snowtrac 2 de iarna.Aceasi alegere as face si acum , desi as opta pentru Vr.Snowtrac 3, un profil mai eficient.Nu este un moft sa circuli in siguranta, iar siguranta ta si a celor aflati in masina ta {exceptand soacra} conteaza mai mult de 40-100 euro cat costa un set second hand.Stim cu totii ca gumele de iarna ofera franare, directie, stabilitate superioara in comparatie cu cele mixte, de cele de vara....nu e cazul sa mai vorbim.
Deci cu anvelopele potrivite si cu putina atentie ne putem bucura si iarna de o calatorie relaxanta.


Am glumit in legatura cu soacra!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

15 Oct 2011, 17:50

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

15 Oct 2011, 18:08

Semperit mi-am luat si eu, de iarna, noi. Am dat 195 lei/buc. Mai ieftine gasesti dar si calitatea e pe masura. Eu zic ca astea sunt ok, acuma o sa vad eu la iarna. Pacat ca nu stau la granita cu bulgaria ca imi luam si eu de acolo ca astia te indoaie cu preturil si eu sunt si bugetar.

Drumuri bune si fara evenimente neplacute.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

16 Oct 2011, 14:19

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

16 Oct 2011, 14:39

Mda si toti o practicam.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

16 Oct 2011, 15:45

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

16 Oct 2011, 16:16

Gata! Am schimbat adidasii cu bocancii. Era o coada la vulcanizare...

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

16 Oct 2011, 16:45

Prețul la manoperă nu crescuse?

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

16 Oct 2011, 18:15

sunt de acord ca anvelopele de iarna isi au rostul lor (eu aveam si cand nu erau obligatorii), dar in legatura cu legea... sunt multe de discutat...
=1. La articolul I punctul 2, punctul 28 al alineatului (1) al articolului 102 se modifica si va avea urmatorul cuprins:
„28. conducerea autovehiculului pe drumurile publice acoperite cu zapada, gheata sau polei, fara ca acesta sa fie dotat cu anvelope de iarna ....=

acum ce sa intelegem?
1- ca legea intra in vigoare de la 1 noiembrie - asta e clar
2- nu sunt obligatorii decat daca circulam pe drumurile publice acoperite cu zapada, gheata sau polei ?
3- se specifica undeva in lege gradul de uzura si metoda de masurare a anvelopelor de iarna?
4- este discriminare sau nu faptul ca autoturismele trebuie sa aiba toate anvelopele de iarna iar cele peste 3,5t doar pe rotile motrice? =....iar in cazul autovehiculului de transport marfa cu o masa totala maxima autorizata mai mare de 3,5 tone si al autovehiculului de transport persoane cu mai mult de 9 locuri pe scaune, inclusiv cel al conducatorului auto, fara ca acestea sa fie echipate cu anvelope de iarna pe rotile axei/axelor de tractiune...=

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

16 Oct 2011, 20:39

2. Da
3. Gradul de uzura si metda de masurare exista pentru cauciucuri, indiferent de tip (iarna/vara)
5. Oarecum. Ia in calcul ca un microbuz/tir nu schimba directia ca o masina mica, astfel incat sa derapeze la fel de usor...

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

16 Oct 2011, 22:55

Alex nu stiu cat costa in mod normal - dat roata de vara jos, pus roata de iarna = 7 lei - total 28 lei.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

17 Oct 2011, 08:48

Asta e unul dintre putinele articole complete si corecte : http://www.adevarul.ro/actualitate/Totu ... 42935.html

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

19 Oct 2011, 09:29

Eu am dat la vulcanizare 85 lei, schimbat gumele pe jante , echilibrat , montat.Deci..... mult/putin trebuie sa dai.
Va doresc drum fara gropi, zapada, polei, carute, betivi, caini/pisici, biciclisti turmentati, pietre cazute din cupele de transport, etc.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

19 Oct 2011, 17:25

@toxicristi: asa este, articolul respectiv este explicit si la subiect.

Poate mai putin faza cu "Verificarea anvelopelor în trafic este făcută de echipajele mixte Poliţie Rutieră - RAR. Nu putem exclude posibilitatea ca verificarea anvelopelor să fie făcută doar de către agenţii de circulaţie"

Pai au sau n-au voie agentii sa verifice anvelopele fara cei de la RAR?

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

19 Oct 2011, 17:42

Mi s-ar parea aberant sa nu poata, in conditiile in care cetateanul de rand trebuie sa poata!

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

21 Oct 2011, 17:41

fratilor, am de ales, deci ce-mi recomandati dintre urmatoarele marci de cauciucuri de iarna:
kumho \ pirelli \ hankook \ viking (continental) \ matador \ nokian si de ce ? Eventual si pareri, daca aveti...

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

21 Oct 2011, 18:32

viewtopic.php?f=149&t=25410

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

21 Oct 2011, 18:34

ok. multumesc.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

21 Oct 2011, 18:50

Salut!Votez pentru cauciucurile de iarna,iarna.Va pot salva din multe situatii neplacute mai ales cand ajungeti in zone cu multa zapada,polei si pe unde nu a trecut nici mama lamei de dezapezit :) .Mi-am echipat masina de anul trecut cu 4 cauciucuri noi 175/65/14 DEBICA FRIGO 2 ( http://www.debica.com.pl/opony/_9 ) si sunt extrem de multumit de ele.Sunt din PiatraNeamt,ganditi-va ca pe aici ninge serios nu gluma si am fost prin zone in care era zapada destul de mare,dar ale mele pneuri s-au comportant excelent.Asa ca nu va zgarciti ......

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

21 Oct 2011, 20:20

anul asta am facut un efort si mi-am luat jante de tabla pt cauciucurile de iarna (2 ierni la rand mi-am cam batut joc de Azev-uri cu cauciucurile de iarna 195/45/16 prin gropile patriei); consider a fi un lucru bun legea in curs desi ne-a mai pus la un efort financiar cu setul de 4 gume obligatorii.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

21 Oct 2011, 21:24

Cit te-a costat schimbatul ?
Maine am sa vin si eu la voi la Medgidia sa mi le schimb .(le am acolo la un unchi de-al neveste-mi )

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

21 Oct 2011, 22:01

pe multi i-a speriat amenda de 4000 RON si au cumparat cauciucuri.
cineva a spus ca occidentalii au fost civilizati cu amenzi foarte mari. uite ca si la noi cand e rost de o amenda foarte mare, se respecta legea.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

21 Oct 2011, 23:50

^ideea ca la noi chiar daca exista legea, in nenumerate randuri s-a vazut ca nu se aplica tuturor, asa cum se aplica in majoritatea cazurilor din tarile vestice si, mai ales, nordice.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

22 Oct 2011, 09:40

Concluzia care am tras-o pe pielea mea e ca rotile echipate de iarna nu sunt deloc un moft. Aceiasi intrebare mi-am pus-o si eu cand am luat masina, initial am avut cauciucuri de iarna de aceea nu m-am speriat, am umblat cu ele si vara, chiar daca s-au uzat mai repede.


Moft e considerata in general o masina la romani, desi nu e deloc asa. In ultima instanta, daca nu ai bani, mai bine strici un set de cauciucuri sh pe an si te costa 200 lei, daca nu ai bani de jante separate.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

22 Oct 2011, 11:43

Acum pe ff2 am goodyear ultragrip 7+, de care sunt extrem de multumit, dar in trecut pe fiesta am avut pirelli si au foarte ok ca si aderenta, dar mai zgomotoase la viteza peste 60km/h.

Cele pe care le am acum nu cred ca m-ar ajuta la zapada f mare, dar nu intentionez sa o iau prin camp :-).

Profilul il alegi si in functie de zona unde utilizezi masina. Daca stai la Straja si acolo utilizezi masina zi de zi cred ca ai nevoie de un alt profil decat cineva care face naveta zilnic cu masina intre Ploiesti si Bucuresti.

Parerea mea....


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Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

23 Oct 2011, 12:50

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

27 Oct 2011, 15:26

Un articol interesant: http://www.4tuning.ro/legislatie-auto/c ... tter_48384

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

27 Oct 2011, 16:00

Merita azot in rotile de iarna? Sunt de tabla, in stare buna.

Re: Anvelope de iarna - moft sau necesitate?

27 Oct 2011, 19:14

Da, merita, eu am asa ceva si pe cele de vara, si pe cele de iarna.
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