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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde zaboss » 14 Noi 2012, 13:34

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde Nic_Bv » 14 Noi 2012, 13:35


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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde Officer » 14 Noi 2012, 13:42

@zaboss - la asa mod de adresare nu meriti niciun raspuns. Iti lipsesc 7 ani, cei care lipsesc majoritatii din tara asta.
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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde Nic_Bv » 14 Noi 2012, 13:49

@razvann: inflatia nu este conditionata de scaderea/cresterea puterii de cumparare.

Ca sa fac pe placul colegului bezart, hai sa ne imaginam urmatorul scenariu: maine creste euro cu 50%. Poimaine combustibilul, materiile prime de import, serviciile corelate la cursul de schimb, etc, urca si ele cu 50%. Raspoimaine, cand iesi la cumparaturi, ghici ce valoare vor arata preturile? Indiferent daca ai sau nu ai bani in buzunar...

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde zaboss » 14 Noi 2012, 14:06

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde Nic_Bv » 14 Noi 2012, 14:16

@zaboss: in mod cert, am studiat economia de piata dupa manuale diferite.

Sunt curios cum ajustezi in scadere pretul unui produs la care ai profitul brut 30%, in conditiile in care costurile de fabricatie ti-au crescut cu 40%.
Adu-ti aminte de puseurile inflationiste din anii '90. Mai intai au crescut preturile, veniturile au fost corelate ulterior.

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde zaboss » 14 Noi 2012, 14:43

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde toxicristi » 14 Noi 2012, 14:45

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde zaboss » 14 Noi 2012, 14:51

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde Mihai L » 14 Noi 2012, 14:55

Nu e chiar corecta comparatia, zaboss... Nu se fac case noi la jumatate de pret cu aceleasi materiale si manopera ca acum 5 ani.
Marfa SH are valoarea pietei si acolo daca te grabesti va trebui sa lasi la pret.

Pana la urma, degeaba va certati, efectul este acelasi: lumea are bani de mai putine lucruri.
Mai conteaza ca preturile cresc mai repede ca veniturile sau ca leul s-a devalorizat la un venit constant in lei?

Preturile vor creste in continuare, desi producatorii vor incerca cat de mult sa le tina in frau renuntand la adaosuri mari sau lasand-o mai moale cu stocurile. Problema este ca scazand productia, produsele vor costa mai mult (linia de fabricatie sta degeaba, de exemplu).
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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde zaboss » 14 Noi 2012, 16:21

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde toxicristi » 14 Noi 2012, 16:43

Discutia a inceput de acolo, dar tu ai inceput sa argumentezi cu cauze inflationiste (cerere si oferta, cresterea pretului vs vanzarile inregistrare). Hiperinflatia cred ca poate sa apara doar din printarea iresponsabila de bani (implica cresterea preturilor de aprox 150 de ori de la un an la altul).
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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde toxicristi » 15 Noi 2012, 10:39

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde Mihai L » 15 Noi 2012, 11:03

q.e.d. :D
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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde zaboss » 15 Noi 2012, 12:52

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Re: Ne era mai bine pe vremea comunismului?

Mesajde toxicristi » 15 Noi 2012, 13:30

Probabil ca, economico-financiar, cei de acum nu-s cu nimic mai breji decat cei dinainte (nu cred ca cineva isi facea sperante).

P.S. Primul ministrul care zicea "ca nu inlocuim politrucii lor cu ai nostrii" a pus o tanara de 27 de ani a carei singura realizare notabila este ocuparea postului de director de cabinet al secretarului general al PNL pe functia de secretar general adjunct al Guvernului, iar pe postul de director general al Metrorex a fost numita o persoana ce obtinuse doar cu o luna inainte postul de inginer grad 4 (cel mai neexperimentat inginer).
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Mesajde Mihai L » 15 Noi 2012, 15:49

Ciprian, exact asta spunem si noi.
Guvernarea din partea usl NU a existat, ba s-au apucat si de stricat. Ceea ce se vede si din statistica. :D
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Mesajde toxicristi » 16 Noi 2012, 11:37

Pentru ca altceva nu stiu...
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Mesajde iulipapa » 16 Noi 2012, 12:17

... si pentru ca noi "cumparam" (pielea ursului ...).

In cei 4 ani dintre alegeri suntem prea ocupati fiecare cu "rutina zilnica" pentru a avea timp sa "tragem de maneca" pe cei votati, sa le reamintin ce-au promis si sa le aratam zilnic faptul ca ei sunt in slujba noastra si nu invers.

Hai sa recunoastem fiecare: de cate ori am vorbit cu deputatul sau senatorul din colegiul nostru...
Daca vrem sa se schimbe ceva in Romania, cred ca trebuie sa ne schimbam si noi mentalitatile.
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Mesajde zvony » 16 Noi 2012, 12:30

O idee buna mi se parea aceea ca fiecare sa condideze in colegiul din care a fost ales. In asa fel se poate vedea ce impresie le-ai lasat oamenilor de acolo.
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Mesajde verga_Cip » 16 Noi 2012, 12:34

da, corect. nu schimbi colegiile dupa cum iti tuna!



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Mesajde iulipapa » 16 Noi 2012, 13:11

In Arges se cam respecta ... sunt cam aceeasi canditati, pe aceleasi colegii.
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Mesajde Mihai L » 16 Noi 2012, 14:21

Cred ca si in Teleorman e la fel, pe aceleasi principii... =))
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Mesajde mihai79 » 16 Noi 2012, 14:35

La Teleorman nu numai ca sunt aceeasi candidati dar sunt si aceeasi alegatori. De 20 de ani incoace.
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Mesajde Mihai L » 16 Noi 2012, 14:39

Pai nu? Mortii traiesc vesnic, sunt cei mai stabili alegatori! =))
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